Lanterne Rouge presents highlights of Tour de France 2023 Stage 16.

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22 Comments

  1. ad Yates and bike change.

    It's somehwat expected. Yates is a small guy and uses smaller bike. His TT mighb be closer to 6.8 than one would expect; he might for sure see less weight benefits from the change.

  2. Of course there is no suggestion whatsoever that Vinegar Joe was the beneficiary of some special sauce. That could never happen in pro cycling. The only thing that has been crushed is the credibility of this sport.

  3. This is gonna sound very cynical, but JV has NEVER shown anything like this in a TT. To make up 1:38 in less than 23 kilometers?! WTF?! That's VERY sus. Based on cycling's notorious doping history, I just have to be somewhat skeptical. He and TP were almost even in last year's TT, but this much better all of a sudden?!

  4. I’m dutch and I can only mount my bicycle with the bike on my right. When I was in a bikeshop in Scotland they handed it to me on my left and I had to ask to go on the other side because I couldn’t do it like that.

  5. Jonas smoked Pogi in the TT. Primoz smoked G in the TT. There's such a huge difference between Jonas and the rest of the WT riders.

  6. Dear LR & Benji

    these is my reasonings of why jonas was better than wout and especially pogi. You are more expert than I – Do u agree?

    0. TJV had 6 bikes on the top bar vs UAEs 3 bikes => creates wind draft from behind

    1. better aero-position on bike than pogi. much more training on TT bike than wout, who did his first TT in 8 months in Tirreno Addriatico

    2. 100 pct TT course preparation and practice by jonas, thus better descents than pogi and wout. did some turns 5 times on practice day while pogi was in the Pool:-)

    3. Best Equipment

    – shoes

    – socks

    – TT bike, e.g TT bike from cervelo is lighter than UAE's colnado TT bike, hence why pogi changed to normal bike after 17 km and lost stupid seconds as Mr. Gaimon also states:-)

    – bike settings

    – helmet

    4. Jonas has done 50 hours in windtunnel in 2023 looking for small tiny gains…much more than the best of the rest

    5. Jonas had 4 training camps in + 2000 m alt., in 2023 alone

    6.Jonas had a 100 percent TDF 100 focus vs POGI classic fokus and wout's cycle cross and classi focus + has been on 10 break aways in this toiur burning matches, he had not availbale on stage 16

    7. Jonas had optimum preparation, no crashes comp to POGIs wrist injury, pain thu out this tour

    8. Pogi's lack of hard stage race km over the last 2 months caught up I think

    9. Jonas has better restitution than POgi and is better in warm conditions and high humidity (according to pundits' say so)

    10. Fun fact: JONAS DO NOT TAKE KETONE (legal COST subsidisation), THAT IS SAID TO GIVE a SEC PER KM/T. Most of the GC contenders do take it!!

    11. Jonas weights 5 kilo less => advantage on 8-9-10 percentage climbs

    12. Acc. a test on the national physiological test centre for sport athletes in CPH, Denmark:

    Jonas -> heart size, lung size and wo/2 level performance, bloodplasm => "makes him an endurance athlete that, naturally has a physiology that you see from only 1 out og 1 mio"., Quoted, the Lead Doctor and expert in Denmark

  7. To all the critics who think this isnt possible as a natty…

    It IS possible as a natty PLUS AN UPSIZED BAG OF FRESH RBC RICH VIKING BLOOD ON THE REST DAY!

    IYKYK.

    Hey is it pro sport. You are paid and laid for how much money you can make the people who pay you to MAKE THEM MONEY.

  8. Seeing the comments below, both for and against and defending Jonas and noting the difference in his preparation to Pog. However, Jonas was over 2 minutes quicker then his world class teammate riding the same equipment. I love the sport, and I love the TDF, but something smells fishy here. I find it almost impossible to believe that Jonas could put that much time in front of two of the best time trials in the world. in a 22km course. It's almost reminiscent of Armstrong how it look so easy for him and was streets ahead of everybody. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but the spectre of drugs looms large over this sport and spoils it even possibly when you get Championship efforts like this one. If that's what it was.

  9. 7.8 watts/kilo in the TT: This numbers can only be achieved by doping. Whoever thinks otherwise is, well.. naive. People tend to forget very quickly.

  10. It was obvious that a bike change wasn't preferable for the better time trialist because of the flatter bit on the end where a time trial bike would be much quicker , so the UAE team didn't do their homework as good as Jumbo who already decided not to change bikes after their first parcours reconnesense in March.

  11. When Armstrong crushed his opposition race commentators fawned over the superiority, strength and breathtaking performance of it and look how that turned out. They're doing and saying the exact same with Vingegaard as if they have never learned anything from history.

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