[Henry Winter] Performances like this can get managers sacked. Erik ten Hag on thin ice after one of the worst #MUFC displays at home in living memory. Report from Old Trafford

by PradipJayakumar

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  1. PradipJayakumar on

    This was the type of spineless performance that gets managers sacked.

    This was the sort of entry in a club’s Hall of Shame that comes with significant, painful consequences beyond points dropped.

    Whether Manchester United players’ litany of error of weaknesses costs Erik ten Hag his job immediately, in the international break or later there can be no doubt that this has badly damaged whatever remaining credibility he has here.

    At another club, with less patient fans, Ten Hag would have been history by now.

    United supporters were admirably defiant, backing their team. If only United players had shown similar defiance.

    The only players to emerge with reputation intact were Andre Onana, who made a couple of decent saves but was otherwise left exposed by a porous defence, and Alejandro Garnacho, who almost snapped a post with a volley and never stopped running.

    When a team is otherwise collectively so awful the finger of blame is inevitably pointed at the manager. It was difficult to work out Ten Hag’s tactics, whether possession-based or counter-attacking.

    United have no obvious identity, other than a look of fear.

    By contrast, Ange Postecoglou had Tottenham in typically bold mood.

    To dare is to do and they did.

    Spurs were almost 2-1-4-3 in possession. Postecoglou’s full-backs, Pedro Porro and Destiny Udogie, pushed down the flanks or stepped into midfield.

    Spurs were brave, on the front foot, their enterprise embodied by the outstanding Dejan Kulusevski, who created nine chances. Spurs were as good as United were bad.

    To appreciate fully the wretched nature of this performance, and why it further shreds Ten Hag’s authority, United fans need only the briefest history lesson.

    They have sat and stood through some shocking reverses here, even in the Sir Alex Ferguson era, including a 3-0 loss to a Mo Johnston-inspired Everton in 1992, a 4-1 to Liverpool in 2009 capped by Andrea Dossena lobbing Edwin van der Sar, and a 6-1 to Mario ‘why always me’ Balotelli and Manchester City in 2011.

    These were few and far between under Ferguson, whose teams could usually be relied on to play with some fight even in defeat.

    The total absence of any resolve against Spurs lent even more infamy to this scoreline, which actually flattered United.

    It could be easily set amongst the worst displays of the post-Ferguson era here.

    Those willing David Moyes to be successful began losing faith early with defeat to West Brom in September 2013 and then a 3-0 to Liverpool later in the season when Luis Suarez ran riot and Moyes was on thin ice. As thin as Ten Hag is now.

    Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s reign was undermined by shocking defending in the 6-1 humbling by Spurs here in 2020.

    Solskjaer began losing his grip on the wheel in a 5-0 rout by Liverpool in 2021. Yet this felt worse.

    Ten Hag has been given money to rebuild and the foundations look wobbly.

    For Spurs, arriving on the back of three wins on the spin, they must have been confident. Lads, it’s United.

    That’s the problem with United now. Nobody fears them. That’s the problem for Ten Hag. He stood alone, in the rain, watching his team playing without any authority, or discipline and incapable of changing things.

    Remarkably, the fans remained supportive. When Marcus Rashford failed to keep in Kobbie Mainoo’s over-hit pass, they cheered his effort.

    When Rashford then over-ran the ball, the fans in the front row leant forward and shouted encouragement.

    Those inside Old Trafford never turned on the players, nor Ten Hag, who was even applauded by an admittedly emptying Stretford End as he walked towards the tunnel after the final whistle. They’re loyal. But for how long?

    Because this performance was an insult to those who pay good money and expect at least wholehearted commitment in return.

    They don’t expect Rashford and Garnacho to hesitate and Micky van de Ven to pinch possession and storm upfield, squaring for the unmarked Brennan Johnson to score after three minutes.

    They expect more discipline than demonstrated by both their hapless full-backs, Diogo Dalot and Noussair Mazraoui, both soon booked.

    Another three were cautioned, Lisandro Martinez, Manuel Ugarte and Mason Mount, while Bruno Fernandes was sent off.

    The sight of United’s captain trudging away provided the fitting image of a leaderless side, on the field and in the dug-out.

    Fernandes could consider himself unfortunate, having slipped when challenging James Maddison, but raising his foot looked an obvious cynical attempt to stop the Spurs midfielder advancing. It could have been yellow but didn’t look a clear and obvious error by Chris Kavanagh. VAR was never going to overrule.

    Kavanagh was booed by United fans but Ten Hag could not hide behind the decision.

    His team were poor in the preceding 41 minutes. United fans expected more fight in the second half, drawing on a sense of injustice, but they fell further behind, again from a mistake.

    Lisandro Martinez dived in, Johnson sprinted down the right, and Kulusevski applied an elegant volleyed finish.

    United fans still sang. Yet they were again let down by their players 14 minutes from time.

    Lucas Bergvall curled a corner over, and United’s marking was non-existent. Pape Matar Sarr flicked on and Dominic Solanke applied the finishing touch.

    Many United fans had seen enough. “Is there a fire drill?” enquired the jubilant travelling fans.

    No, but the alarms are sounding for Ten Hag.

  2. HeFreakingMoved on

    I’m agreeing with Henry Winter, it truly is a dark day. Time to go Erik, thanks for trying.

  3. If you’re in doubt that United is rotten, including down to the players, please watch any other match of football and take a look how players on both teams run, tackle, track back, get into space.

    Watched real vs atletico last night and it looked like a different sport. ETH, like many before him, lost the team, and on top of that, his tactics are either non-existent or just plain bad.

    Our midfield has been wide open for over 2 years now. Bruno is getting run into the ground. Mainoo looks like an old man at 19. Garnacho the same. Amad is slowly beggining to lose his shine, after just a few months of regular playtime. Rahsford hasn’t performed sice 22/23. The list definitely goes on. These are world class players looking like low iq amateurs out there, every week.

    I was very supportive of ETH at the end of last season, partly because of the injuries, the FA cup win and how he was treated in the media. Now i can’t say i haven’t changed my mind

  4. Sufficient_Theory534 on

    I’d still give ETH time, up until the international break to see if he can turn this around. So much money has been invested, it takes time for new players to gel. The most worrying thing is how little effort the experienced players are putting in, who’ve been with ETH for years now, are stabbing him in the back by playing with no desire.

  5. Jonny_Testicles on

    Could you imagine Real Madrid finishing 7th but keeping their manager because they won the Copa Del Rey? Our standards are so low so no wonder players aren’t afraid to play shit either

  6. Over-Temperature-602 on

    It’s amazing how many “one of the worst displays ever” we’ve seen under him.

    I still think he has a good managerial career in front of him and he’ll probably succeed elsewhere. But he won’t succeed here, sadly.

  7. flawless_victory99 on

    I can’t stand “analysis” of Garnacho which praises him for “never stops running” but fails to mention he’s literally incapable of taking on the FB and loses the ball constantly.]

    He’s a big part of the reason why United struggle to control games.

    United hierarchy should sack ETH for the simple reason of sending a message that this standard is unacceptable.

    A numbers of players should be on the way out too.

  8. It’s a defining moment for Ineos tenure. Do they have what it takes to bring the club back to the top ? Will they be ruthless enough to?

    Hell, id even say its a defining moment for the decade to come.

  9. This club and sub still live in a post SAF trauma. The worst damage Sir Alex did to this club was his speech about backing the manager. The Glazers spent far too long looking for a Sir Alex replacement (there will never be one) and not building a modern footballing structure as the game moved on. If we had a proper structure to begin with, removing a manager that is not the right fit would be a much simpler task since he wouldn’t have had as much power to begin with, and signings were made to fit a style of play rather than the managers wishes.

    Each manager getting several 100 million pounds to put his stamp on the squad, making it more and more dysfunctional with each manger. And here we are. A squad full av Ajax rejects and over the hill stars. Just a general tip, if one of the elite clubs in Europe easily want to sell you one of their players, you should stop and ask why? If they claim they would never even sell you a virus, then you know you are on the right track.

  10. “Performances like this can get managers sacked”.

    Seen over 10 such performances from ETH’s team. Yet to be sacked.

  11. The ice must be very fucking thin. He surely would have been gone this summer if we hadn’t won the fa cup. They decided to keep him and here we are looking as shit as we did last season.

  12. ObiWanKenobiNil on

    He’s had enough time and we are still shite. I’d be more than happy with Thomas frank, he’s done an unreal job at Brentford

  13. Can and should

    Any intelligent club would have got rid by now but we’re the most sentimental club in the world

  14. OGS as caretaker. At least we will have some reason to watch again and have some fun games again…

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