Postecoglou: “This was the worst defeat since I’ve signed for Spurs”.
“I’m frustrated and absolutely gutted with that. The second half was unacceptable”.
“We kind of accepted our fate and it is hard to understand as we’ve not done that while I’ve been here”, told Sky.
Hufftey on
Yeah cause we were in control and got complacent. He’ll be raging with this one
And naturally, the last game before the international break so we have a nice long 2 weeks to stew on this result… 🫠
Vedeluxe123 on
Agreed
BiscuitTheRisk on
I’d say one of the numerous batterings against Arsenal would be worse
Kreygasm2233 on
Why not make a change at minute 55 after they’ve been bossing us around for 10 minutes?
Big_AngeBosstecoglou on
Never seen players give up at 2-0 up. Really weird behaviour. Welbeck’s goal summed it all up when Bentancur tried to half arsedly see the ball out and the Brighton attacker just wanted it more and got the cross in.
None of the goals served as a wake up call either. It’s fairly evident which of the lads had started on Thursday I must be honest, Ange needs to start rotating heavily in the EL once we’re in a safe position for qualification
rifler26 on
Worst defeat *so far*
FamLit on
Who knew that Udogie getting skinned all game could lead to goals, certainly not our coach getting paid millions!
Fit-Leading6400 on
After conceded two goals in first half, Brighton’s young manager change his pressing tactics against Ange’s spurs. And it worked. And Ange was just substituing same position players on 80s min.We need a real manage who are bright at tactics .
figureyouout1 on
Then don’t stand there with your hands in your pockets shaking your head every two minutes. We had one manager look at the movement of Kulu and Johnson, and said right, even though the full-back is good in possession and creating chances. I need to alter my formation slightly and bring on Pervis for more pace.
Ange watches Mitoma skin Porro since minute 25, put a tap-in for Welbeck, create numerous chances on that side, and go… ahh mate, not yet. First goal comes from that transition, not yet mate, second goal too. It’s genuinely laughable at this level.
I love how we play when in control of the ball, but this reckless abandon to not help out our midfield, or identify threats (newcastle ball over-the-top with Gordon/Isak) just makes infuriates me so much.
Just keep shaking your head, Ange. I’m sure that’ll enthuse the players to get out of this ‘adversity’ they need.
thelordreptar90 on
First game this season I felt we legitimately deserved to lose. We were flat footed the moment the second half kicked off. Brighton deserved the 3 points.
Wooden-Pin3253 on
We seemed to be in such a control and playing beautiful football it was hard to imagine that we would crumble like this. That makes it even harder to swallow. Maybe being a young team, tired legs, lat subs, or combination of all but it felt like we totally lost fluidity in the 2nd half and couldn’t string two passes together. Maybe we should have moved Micky to left back and get Radu in and give the protection and give Micky some freedom to help out in attack would have helped along with fresh legs at 60 mins
Finrad-Felagund on
Why does Ange seem to think other managers will just roll over for us when we lead at the half. No corresponding adjustments are made. Just let Brighton back into the game and made subs a half hour too late. Shocking game management from him
ObiiWannCannBlowwMee on
He had a chance to halt the momentum by making subs….
Altruistic_Avocado_1 on
The one time I felt like should have parked the bus, after they scored the first goal.
justxforxthis on
The lack of any decisive response is inexcusable. Unless your bench is totally devoid of senior players there’s no excuse for not immediately making any changes after you have conceded 2 goals in 10 minutes or 3 in 20.
zamboniest on
All this noise about subs but only 3 of these players played midweek, and yet the entire team looked like they’d gone to sleep in the second half. Genuinely think Werner might have been the most lively and he played Thursday. Ange was waiting for the team to step up and play like they had something on the line and it didn’t happen.
Ok_Cap9240 on
The worst defeat so FAR!
AestheteAndy on
He needs to take a look at himself for this loss. I’m a big fan of Ange but he’s not beyond reproach. He shit the bed badly today with an inability to react to what was happening in the second half. Awful, awful management from him today, he really needs to wake the fuck up and learn from this.
SoftBoiled-15 on
No shit, huh?
Cabbage-Fell on
It’s always the game before a break
Comfortable_Lab1725 on
Both Bentacur and Bissouma always become complacent in the second half if we are 2-0 up. Rodri, Modric are 1 step ahead and I don’t see them ever get complacent.
Most_Caramel_8001 on
I don’t agree with no subs until 79’.
awlb222 on
I need a 2 week international break after that meltdown
yiddoboy on
He’s right. Other defeats have been understandable. This was unforgivable.
coldseam on
It’s crazy because it’s also our most predictable and easily avoidable defeat since he signed for Spurs. Make the subs the minute Brighton pulled one back and it’s a whole different game. They’d been gaining momentum since before half time so it wouldn’t have been harsh or reactionary either.
lowercase_0 on
In terms of an overall performance no its not the worst but I can imagine why to him it’s the worst since we were so good in the first half and then simply stopped and utterly crumbled which will piss him off more than anybody else connected to the club. The players are lucky that a Intl break is coming cause I expect some home truths and reinforcement of the standards he expects from everybody to be in order when they come back
Henry-Gruby on
He waits until the car has driven off the cliff before he chooses to jump out, too late mate.
West Ham next, they will turn into the Galacticos for one day so we need to do better.
EdwinJamesPope on
10 points from 21.. not great, mate!
Best-Issue-2300 on
Need some depth in our backline
False_Vacuum_Decay on
Good to see he’s furious and rightfully so. Our defenders need to hang their heads in shame. Wtf were they doing?
Best-Issue-2300 on
Need some depth in our backline
Ju5hin on
Funny thing is, if one of us said this, we’d be downvoted and called negative and that we should stop wishing for a return to Conte-ball.
Undesirable_11 on
If you don’t add some flexibility into your tactics then it will be the first of many
stepped_in_some_shit on
To me it looks like Ange is saying he didn’t make the subs because he wanted the players on the pitch to compete instead of surrender, and he’d rather lose to get his point across than win by making subs.
Ange is definitely stubborn, and I believe that with his approach, it’s going to be a race between him getting sacked for poor results or him finally embedding his mentality in the team and going on a rampage.
I’m definitely rooting for the latter, but I won’t be surprised if it’s the former. Afterall, the club can’t go along with midtable finishes just to cater to one manager’s coaching philosophy. I still hope we do succeed the way he wants though, it will be glorious.
1882greg on
This one is more on him imho. Brighton tweaked their tactics and the difference was obvious. Ange made some like for like (late) substitutions and I think he should have subbed Timo.
roadhouse_peter on
5th place incoming
Sister-Moon_81 on
We lost when the halftime whistle went, we were playing too good & it should have been 4-0.
So despite whatever Ange said at half time, the players sat there and looked around & thought “How Good Are We!!!” The players expected to cruise to a quality away win.
Human psychology killed us, One player went out in the 2nd half thinking the job was 90% done & anyway, their other 10 teammates will pick up the slack if I take it a bit easy & they will take care of the business….. Problem was the other 10 players were all thinking the same way. It happens so many times in many various Sports around the world & is not really Anges’ fault, “the players dropped the ball”, “put the cue in the rack”, “took the foot off the accelerator”, “put the cart before the horse”, “counted their chickens before they had even hatched”, “already started thinking about next week” …..etc ….etc …..
Or, as we often say in Australia: “Thought they’d already climbed the Harbour Bridge when they were actually only sitting on an Opera House Sail & got had distracted by the beautiful view (the beautiful football they’d been playing)” OK, I made that one up. 😁
FUMFVR on
Looked like the team thought the match was won at half. So complacent.
ConallDubhghall on
Agreed!
His reasoning is sound too, now it’s up to the players to not let it happen again even if Ange is far from blameless obviously.
Commandant1 on
The players have to take some responsibility, it’s not all on the manager.
Udogie and Romero were very poor and even Van de Ven wasn’t his regular self.
Meanwhile for all those saying, he should have made subs, very few are saying those are the players he should have subbed.
2345678913 on
Adjust your tactics sometimes please
HotelCaliformula on
I’m not saying the criticism isn’t valid, but I genuinely don’t know which subs Ange could’ve made when the entire team decided to switch off after the half.
pioniere on
Love all the experts in here who think they know more than a Premier League manager. Glad it’s Ange running the show and not you idiots.
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Postecoglou: “This was the worst defeat since I’ve signed for Spurs”.
“I’m frustrated and absolutely gutted with that. The second half was unacceptable”.
“We kind of accepted our fate and it is hard to understand as we’ve not done that while I’ve been here”, told Sky.
Yeah cause we were in control and got complacent. He’ll be raging with this one
And naturally, the last game before the international break so we have a nice long 2 weeks to stew on this result… 🫠
Agreed
I’d say one of the numerous batterings against Arsenal would be worse
Why not make a change at minute 55 after they’ve been bossing us around for 10 minutes?
Never seen players give up at 2-0 up. Really weird behaviour. Welbeck’s goal summed it all up when Bentancur tried to half arsedly see the ball out and the Brighton attacker just wanted it more and got the cross in.
None of the goals served as a wake up call either. It’s fairly evident which of the lads had started on Thursday I must be honest, Ange needs to start rotating heavily in the EL once we’re in a safe position for qualification
Worst defeat *so far*
Who knew that Udogie getting skinned all game could lead to goals, certainly not our coach getting paid millions!
After conceded two goals in first half, Brighton’s young manager change his pressing tactics against Ange’s spurs. And it worked. And Ange was just substituing same position players on 80s min.We need a real manage who are bright at tactics .
Then don’t stand there with your hands in your pockets shaking your head every two minutes. We had one manager look at the movement of Kulu and Johnson, and said right, even though the full-back is good in possession and creating chances. I need to alter my formation slightly and bring on Pervis for more pace.
Ange watches Mitoma skin Porro since minute 25, put a tap-in for Welbeck, create numerous chances on that side, and go… ahh mate, not yet. First goal comes from that transition, not yet mate, second goal too. It’s genuinely laughable at this level.
I love how we play when in control of the ball, but this reckless abandon to not help out our midfield, or identify threats (newcastle ball over-the-top with Gordon/Isak) just makes infuriates me so much.
Just keep shaking your head, Ange. I’m sure that’ll enthuse the players to get out of this ‘adversity’ they need.
First game this season I felt we legitimately deserved to lose. We were flat footed the moment the second half kicked off. Brighton deserved the 3 points.
We seemed to be in such a control and playing beautiful football it was hard to imagine that we would crumble like this. That makes it even harder to swallow. Maybe being a young team, tired legs, lat subs, or combination of all but it felt like we totally lost fluidity in the 2nd half and couldn’t string two passes together. Maybe we should have moved Micky to left back and get Radu in and give the protection and give Micky some freedom to help out in attack would have helped along with fresh legs at 60 mins
Why does Ange seem to think other managers will just roll over for us when we lead at the half. No corresponding adjustments are made. Just let Brighton back into the game and made subs a half hour too late. Shocking game management from him
He had a chance to halt the momentum by making subs….
The one time I felt like should have parked the bus, after they scored the first goal.
The lack of any decisive response is inexcusable. Unless your bench is totally devoid of senior players there’s no excuse for not immediately making any changes after you have conceded 2 goals in 10 minutes or 3 in 20.
All this noise about subs but only 3 of these players played midweek, and yet the entire team looked like they’d gone to sleep in the second half. Genuinely think Werner might have been the most lively and he played Thursday. Ange was waiting for the team to step up and play like they had something on the line and it didn’t happen.
The worst defeat so FAR!
He needs to take a look at himself for this loss. I’m a big fan of Ange but he’s not beyond reproach. He shit the bed badly today with an inability to react to what was happening in the second half. Awful, awful management from him today, he really needs to wake the fuck up and learn from this.
No shit, huh?
It’s always the game before a break
Both Bentacur and Bissouma always become complacent in the second half if we are 2-0 up. Rodri, Modric are 1 step ahead and I don’t see them ever get complacent.
I don’t agree with no subs until 79’.
I need a 2 week international break after that meltdown
He’s right. Other defeats have been understandable. This was unforgivable.
It’s crazy because it’s also our most predictable and easily avoidable defeat since he signed for Spurs. Make the subs the minute Brighton pulled one back and it’s a whole different game. They’d been gaining momentum since before half time so it wouldn’t have been harsh or reactionary either.
In terms of an overall performance no its not the worst but I can imagine why to him it’s the worst since we were so good in the first half and then simply stopped and utterly crumbled which will piss him off more than anybody else connected to the club. The players are lucky that a Intl break is coming cause I expect some home truths and reinforcement of the standards he expects from everybody to be in order when they come back
He waits until the car has driven off the cliff before he chooses to jump out, too late mate.
West Ham next, they will turn into the Galacticos for one day so we need to do better.
10 points from 21.. not great, mate!
Need some depth in our backline
Good to see he’s furious and rightfully so. Our defenders need to hang their heads in shame. Wtf were they doing?
Need some depth in our backline
Funny thing is, if one of us said this, we’d be downvoted and called negative and that we should stop wishing for a return to Conte-ball.
If you don’t add some flexibility into your tactics then it will be the first of many
To me it looks like Ange is saying he didn’t make the subs because he wanted the players on the pitch to compete instead of surrender, and he’d rather lose to get his point across than win by making subs.
Ange is definitely stubborn, and I believe that with his approach, it’s going to be a race between him getting sacked for poor results or him finally embedding his mentality in the team and going on a rampage.
I’m definitely rooting for the latter, but I won’t be surprised if it’s the former. Afterall, the club can’t go along with midtable finishes just to cater to one manager’s coaching philosophy. I still hope we do succeed the way he wants though, it will be glorious.
This one is more on him imho. Brighton tweaked their tactics and the difference was obvious. Ange made some like for like (late) substitutions and I think he should have subbed Timo.
5th place incoming
We lost when the halftime whistle went, we were playing too good & it should have been 4-0.
So despite whatever Ange said at half time, the players sat there and looked around & thought “How Good Are We!!!” The players expected to cruise to a quality away win.
Human psychology killed us, One player went out in the 2nd half thinking the job was 90% done & anyway, their other 10 teammates will pick up the slack if I take it a bit easy & they will take care of the business….. Problem was the other 10 players were all thinking the same way. It happens so many times in many various Sports around the world & is not really Anges’ fault, “the players dropped the ball”, “put the cue in the rack”, “took the foot off the accelerator”, “put the cart before the horse”, “counted their chickens before they had even hatched”, “already started thinking about next week” …..etc ….etc …..
Or, as we often say in Australia: “Thought they’d already climbed the Harbour Bridge when they were actually only sitting on an Opera House Sail & got had distracted by the beautiful view (the beautiful football they’d been playing)” OK, I made that one up. 😁
Looked like the team thought the match was won at half. So complacent.
Agreed!
His reasoning is sound too, now it’s up to the players to not let it happen again even if Ange is far from blameless obviously.
The players have to take some responsibility, it’s not all on the manager.
Udogie and Romero were very poor and even Van de Ven wasn’t his regular self.
Meanwhile for all those saying, he should have made subs, very few are saying those are the players he should have subbed.
Adjust your tactics sometimes please
I’m not saying the criticism isn’t valid, but I genuinely don’t know which subs Ange could’ve made when the entire team decided to switch off after the half.
Love all the experts in here who think they know more than a Premier League manager. Glad it’s Ange running the show and not you idiots.