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Manchester United and Erik ten Hag are obviously locked in a loveless relationship, going nowhere. At some point, they have to part. His tactics, recruitment, game management and public utterances are all unconvincing. He would already have gone at a club with less patient fans. United’s match-going fanbase have been exemplary in their support of the manager. So far. Yet there also has to be understanding of the litany of injuries and, when Ten Hag finally leaves, some players need to acknowledge they could have done more, given more. If only every player had the professionalism, commitment to the cause and willingness to take responsibility of Jonny Evans. Evans has been a true leader on and off the pitch. When Ten Hag does go, Dan Ashworth and Ineos have also to change the culture shaped by the Glazers. United should be a football club with a megastore attached – not the other way round.
by nearly_headless_nic
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And it would be nice if that time is now
At some stage, patience is not a virtue.
He’s a weight around the clubs neck, but there’s a chunk of fans who have jumped into a sunk cost fallacy cause they decided blindly, two and a half years ago, to blindly back whoever the manager was, regardless of results.
The only reason I can think of for keeping on Ten Hag is the financial hit we’d take from sacking him.
He’s being carried by that FA Cup win when managers that delivered far more consistency in performances were sacked. Everyone knows at some point he WILL get sacked, so why drag it out? He either gets sacked now when our season is still recoverable or in a month or two when things could look even more drab.
These opinion pieces are pissing me off because all I want to hear from these tier 1s is that the sack has been communicated to them
Ineos definitely did not foresee that they have to make a decision like that this early into the season.
His stubbornness is his downfall. He has shown he can tweak his style to win matches. Eg. FA Cup final, his first season. But still insists on his own ineffective methods
“We can’t keep sacking managers” does not apply in this scenario. Most of the squad has changed, senior leadership has changed. Give any of the previous managers, barring Moyes, the support of the board they would have performed so much better. Convinced Ole would have done a madness.
Will be disappointed in Ineos if they don’t make the change now, it doesn’t say good things about them if they sit on their arse over fixing a mistake they already made in the summer.
They can forget all this ‘project 150’ stuff if they aren’t prepared to move quickly to turn things around.
It’s actually crazy how you can’t even fault the players anymore. The only one who kind of lets ten Hag down in terms of effort is Rashford, who he trusts almost every game. I couldn’t name another player who’s not putting in the effort, many of them were signed or brought through by him, yet we still play like shit week in week out.
Remember when Jose lost the dressing room? We were still scoring goals and had some exciting games in the league. With ten Hag, we don’t score, the games are god-awful to watch and we can’t put on a decent winning streak in the league for 1.5 years, yeah ten Hag acts like he’s Mourinho in terms of accolades every time press criticise him. I’ve never been so sick of United coach.
It’s inevitable that at some point he’s going to get sacked. The Villa performance was not something to build on it was a mediocre game against mediocre opposition on the day.
He’s going to get sacked. It’s obvious. What benefit is there in delaying it another 4, 8, 12 weeks? There is no way this turns around and the longer we wait the less chance his replacement has of getting us competing for a European spot.
The things that matter most at this club are the Premier League and Champions League. Ten Hag has failed in both over the last one and a bit seasons. He isn’t the right man.
I will die on the hill that his recruitment is fine, bar a couple of hiccups (Antony being the biggest) and not getting a left-back or a more mature striker this window
I kind of understand the reluctance the new leadership has about seeming trigger happy regarding sacking managers. However, things don’t seem to be going anywhere with Eric. I believe this time it’s best to part ways.
>United’s match-going fanbase have been exemplary in their support of the manager.
When we were doing awful under Mourinho, I wanted him gone. But when I went to that Spurs game at Old Trafford I roared as loud as I could in support of Mourinho.
Even Moyes was getting support when we were getting trashed.
It’s just what fans do, to try and make a difference in the ground.
Sack him already and then sue him for deluding all the fans and team for malicious behaviour/ breach of contract . Why would he buy mount ? Antony ?
So can anyone tell me which manager we should go for next?
Genuinely who wants to join Manchester united with our mid table squad and reckons they can challenge for the title?
These journalists absolutely live off this shit.
Tuchel is probably the only likely option at the moment… that or Rudd…..would Tuchel take a short term contract ?
We will know a lot about INEOS if they don’t sack him.
Why isn’t he still sacked?
There are times when I think he has been unfortunate, but then he signed Mount, who did nothing in the last year at Chelsea. Yoro is a loss – but he’s a kid and shouldn’t have been a key signing.
LB has been weak for years, yet a kid we couldn’t play is doing great stuff now.
Failure to reinforce LB, and CF will be his downfall – along with the never ending search for a right winger (when the answer was on loan at Sunderland).
INEOS are an absolute dud if they keep this fraud on. I still cannot get over the extension this summer, when he was all but sacked before the FA cup final. That sort of knee jerk reversal does not scream “best in class”
Would be nice if Henry winter could have said this in the summer instead of saying it was the good thing to keep him
Let’s have a new manager under the new football management too.
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What Henry wrote back in June when Ten Hag kept his job in the summer.
At this stage it has become bi-weekly bullying by Henry lol. He’s not wrong but we will see how/ if the new board reacts
Love the bolded bit about Evans. His presence – remembering he was mostly a squad player under SAF – is setting the standard for commitment and willingness to our current players. It shows how far we’ve dropped off in terms of recruitment; not in talent, but in personality.
We used to bring in players who were built differently, and Evans is week-in, week-out living proof of that.
If he’s still here Friday, he’s staying until December as a minimum.
My concern is the longer we wait the poorer the squad will become. he is actively making players worse. He needs to be gone so a competent individual can take over.